"The Psychology of Leadership" Author and T. Rowe Price CIO Sebastien Page

The Psychology of Leadership with Sebastien Page: Listening, Strategic Quitting, and Long-Term Thinking Jason Wright interviews Sebastien Page, T. Rowe Price’s Head of Global Multi-Asset and CIO overseeing $500+ billion, about his book The Psychology of Leadership and the mindset and habits behind effective leadership. Page argues leadership is often counterintuitive: listening can matter more than communication; quitting—like selling an investment or stopping a failing project—is harder than persistence; and stress is inevitable but can be used as performance fuel. They discuss goal-induced blindness (including Everest examples), the importance of long-term thinking and meaning (the “three bricklayers” analogy), and mentoring high-achievers beyond wealth or fame. Page highlights basics for sustained performance—sleep, diet, exercise—and uses box breathing before high-stress moments like CNBC appearances. They also cover growth mindset, process-oriented excellence, and Page cites GE CEO Larry Culp as a leadership exemplar. 00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro 02:32 Energy Management Talk 05:28 Leadership Myths Flipped 08:51 Strategic Quitting Skills 11:08 Goals and Everest Lesson 14:31 Born or Made Leaders 18:43 Growth Mindset and Excellence 22:32 Process Goals and Mastery 25:02 Leadership Basics 26:06 Sleep Diet Exercise 28:10 Breathwork Under Stress 29:44 Positive Self Talk 31:46 Mental Rehearsal Mastery 34:31 Avoid Toxic Positivity 38:07 Long Range Goals 39:35 Meaning Over Money 41:56 Mentoring High Achievers 48:40 Book Takeaways Wrap 50:15 Leaders Worth Studying 52:05 Final Sign Off